The Spice is Right - Barrel to Bottle Tries Pumpkin Beers, Ciders and Other Fall Favorites

Pumpkin Spice Latte Season (PSL SZN) is upon us. For beer and cider drinkers, that can sometimes mean big gloppy messes. But this week’s lineup features a selection of some of Roger’s favorites, that are all exercises in subtly and the art of balance. Also, a listener question about the status of a beloved Scottish lager.

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All right, so what do we got here? All right, so this is arguably the most classic pumpkin ale. I'm sorry, was that pumpkin or pumpkin? This is pumpkin ale from Dogfish Head. It is the, you know, it's like, we've said this before, like Dogfish Head was one of the first breweries for adjuncts. So we joke about how pretty much everybody uses them now, but Sam Calgione definitely listened to the Barrel to Bottle episode where we interviewed him. We have two of them. He came to beer kind of through a cooking perspective. You are drinking his first creation. This is his first beer? Yeah. Isn't that wild? That is wild. He just started off using mace. And then moved on to a giant cannon. Don't be crazy. He didn't have money for mace. Okay. Nutmeg anyway. Is it pumpkin? It might be. It just says spices. It's pumpkin meat. So, he wanted to clarify that they're actually using... Yeah. At least he didn't use the word flesh. Yeah, that's what it is. Pumpkin, brown sugar and spices. I love this. This is good. This is very delightful. I've never had it. It has a really good, genuine, fruity pumpkin flavor. It tastes like beer with a little bit of pumpkin spice and pumpkin, and not like pumpkin soup. Agreed. Or a dessert. It's not super like sugar bomb and crazy. There's hops here. Well, Lexi, we've talked about how in PSL season, how there's not even pumpkin in a pumpkin spice latte. Like it's just pumpkin spice. It should be almost like hyphenated or something. I have to add an addendum to that. I just saw that Starbucks now has a version with real pumpkin. Ooh. Yeah. All right. Here's the challenge to Roger. This one, we taste this every year. This is a classic. This is delicious. We actually haven't in a while. We haven't? I don't know. I don't know what's in the beer ones. But we have a whole episode to go. It's going to be tough to beat that. Yeah. This is available in six packs is how it comes out every year. This year, it is also available in the Dogfish Head Variety Pack alongside two other beers from 1995, Chickery Stout and Raisin Datra. Oh, Chickery Stout's pack. Both incredible beers. Nice. That's that beer that'll get you moving. You are listening to Barrel to Bottle The Binny's Podcast, Autumn Beers. This one, I love it every year. And Ciders. It reminds me. And because Nosferatu, oh. Wah, wah. Beers and Ciders. I'm Greg, I do communications at Binny's. Hey, I'm Chris, I do wine related things. I'm Lexi, also communications. I'm Roger, I do beer. Roger does beer and cider. And cider, big advocate. Get ready, kids, you're going to Appland today. Our next pumpkin beer is a real blast from the past. It's an excellent example of the style. It was also one of the trends started for whatever reason with pumpkin nails, that people wanted really strong ones. Maybe it's for the colder weather ringing in, but this is Cigar City, good gourd. Good gourd, good gourd, good gourd indeed. Look at that color. What's the percent on that last one? So, the Doc Fish one was 7%. That's high for the body of that beer. Right. So, that one definitely was leaner than you would imagine and like dangerously drinkable for a 7% beer. This one is 8.8. Hello. It's Imperial. So, fans of like Schlafly Pumpkin Ale or Southern Tier Pumpking, which is probably one of the most recognized of the styles. You definitely want to check out Good Gourd. It is back after a long hiatus. I'd like it when breweries listen to their fan base. So, this is one of those like fans requested it. They re-brewed it. It's made with real pumpkin as it like dog fish and it features cinnamon, allspice, clove, nutmeg, and a little vanilla. Does it ever. This is full of spice. It's very spicy in the nose and on the palate. I love this. I think that we might have an issue with this episode because I love pumpkin beers. So, after every single one, I'm probably just going to say, I love this. When we were recently on the beer trip, we were talking about how it is really an art to get the spices right because you don't want to end up with like Yankee candle in liquid form. Come on down, the spice is right. And I think a key part of that is getting the right amount of a malt backbone. And like this beer and the dogfish have had a good malt character. Both of them also really feature the pumpkin. So, sometimes you'll have a pumpkin beer and go, is there pumpkin in this or just spices? It's definitely prevalent here. It like multiplies against the malt to make it seem rich and broad. But it also has a healthy amount of carbonation, so it's not too weighty on the palate. Yeah. There's maybe a little more residual sugar here. It gives me more of a creamy pumpkin pie impression than the pumpkin. I think that's the vanilla. Yeah. It's not sweet at all in broader terms, but just a little bit more. And yeah, the vanilla definitely makes it seem more custardy. I think it hides its percentage as well. Yeah. I wouldn't have guessed that that was 8.8, you said? Yeah. Agreed. It's in the weight, the palate weight. Definitely cloves. Clove is popping and it's nice. Is this scratching your nutmeg itch? How dare you? Chris had a real nutmeg problem for a while. This is a tough time of year. Now I'm just naturally delirious. I'm glad you brought up the clove. That's another thing where again, this is dialed in the right way. Yeah. Normally I'm like, don't put clove in things because a little goes way too much. So they dialed this in nicely. This is available in four packs while supplies last. It is available for the nice price of $1,199. Nice. Wow. Crazy steal for a beer this big with real spices. It's really grab it before it's gone. I love that it's in a 12 ounce can. Yep. Everything we've had so far, including this next one. Yeah. All right, so in the next one, we're gonna take a break from the pumpkin stuff and do a seasonally appropriate beer. We already did an Octoberfest episode, but I can't help myself. This is back again after a long hiatus. This is another fan re-brew. This is Avery the Kaiser. I have to admit to drinking quite a few of these at the golf outing the other day. They had them on the drink cart. Roger, this one caught my eye in last week's Beer Buzz. I was like, I might have to get this one. This, I think, is such a perfectly dialed in Oktoberfest. It has a really rich malt bill, so definitely more of the old school American interpretation of Ameritzen. There's Turo, Aromatic, Vienna, Munich and Dark Munich. But then it's also hopped with enough Hirst-Bruecker and Bravo hops that you just get a truly American interpretation of the style. Yeah, I totally agree with that. There's all of that typical Oktoberfest malt, but yeah, there's much more bitterness than you'd expect from a classic German one. It's the Hirst-Bruecker that makes it American. Hirst. The Bravo. But the amount of hops that they're using, I mean the fact that you can taste hops on the finish like that in a pronounced way. Yeah. If you usually were American, interpretations of the style are maybe a little weird for people is that they use more malt, more residual sugar than a German brewery would, but then they don't hop it extra to accommodate that. So drinking light and fresh and crispy with the hops on the finish, but I couldn't help but notice the word imperial on here. I was going to ask about that. Yeah, this is a big one. What's that percentage? It's 8 percent, which is a lot for a night. I wouldn't have guessed that. That's really high for act over fast. The hidden theme of today's episode is dangerous to drink. I see that. Well, it's fall. Once it gets cold, who wants to be cold? Yeah. At 8 percent and with all that malt, it's really drinkable because it's pretty well attenuated. It's not that malty sugar bomb at all. This is available for the first time in our market in six-pack cans for $11.90. Are you kidding me? It's just bonkers value here. That's cheaper than cut water, just saying. I mean, if you want the fall feels, I think it's fun to drink on Oktoberfest alongside some of these pumpkins because the malt bill, a lot of the pumpkin beers are like a brown ale base, which never gets talked about that much because brown ale doesn't sound very exciting. The Rodney Dangerfield. They're brown. They're brown. Brown pumpkin. But with a nice imperial Oktoberfest, you get a lot of those nice caramelized flavors that fit perfectly with fall and with a lot of the things we like to eat during the fall. Roger just justified double-fisting 8 percent beer. All right, so, speaking of pumpkin spice latte. Finally, something goofy. I've been wanting to try this. I saw it on a shelf, I think, or a line or something, and I've been wanting to try it. Does this have lactose in it, Roger? I believe so, yeah. Wait a minute, it's literally called pumpkin spice latte. It's so silly. Look at that can. It does, Chris. It has lactose. Also, what I think is a smart move on this, they're calling it an oat ale, so it has a ton of oats in it, and that will help with the perception of creaminess. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. They also just got all the oat latte drinkers. Oat? I.e. me. Pumpkin spice latte, Pipe Works. Bringing it back with the wacky art. Wait, is there coffee in this? Part of the reason I brought this for you, Greg, you know what's in here? There's coffee in this. Dark matter coffee. I was going to say that the first thing I sniffed I took, I wasn't expecting the big coffee character in the note. And they pulled it off. I love light beers with coffee because it shows that it doesn't just have to be stout and it gives you this crispiness. I love it. That is remarkably well balanced. I mean, nothing is screaming in this. Like, there's coffee. It's there. There's no doubt, but it's not crazy coffee, you know? And it's not that like super bitter coffee because I feel like sometimes you'll get that direction too. I think they kind of nailed the balance pretty well. It's total like dark chocolate and coffee character. It's not too vegetal and that would multiply it against pumpkin, make it taste weird, and it doesn't do that. Yeah, I was pretty ready not to like this just on the name, but I'm surprised. You know what inspired me to feature this in part is they make a horchata ale and they make a king cake ale, and I would say that they're all kind of in the same family of these things that you think these are going to be a mess, and they're actually all really good. They're like an exercise in dialing stuff in perfectly because this has pumpkin, coffee, lactose, vanilla, cinnamon, clove, and ginger. There's a lot of places where they could have gone wrong. That's a recipe for a mess. Ginger too, especially in a beer. It could be too, way too spicy. It could be hot. It could be all you taste is clove, but instead such a good job of balancing all those big flavors. Not one of those things happened. It just, they, yeah. It's not overwhelming on the palate. It's all balanced and it's not too big. I think this is a morning beer. That's a very good breakfast beer. Great breakfast beer. $12.99, very good price. Four packs, 16 ounce cans, 6.9, so we're not quite as intense, but also this is pretty amazingly easy to drink for 7% almost. 100% honest, I would have just passed this on the shelf, but I think it's really good. It doesn't deliver the promise that the label makes in that it's a nice, balanced, complex beer, instead of what is pictured, which is a pink unicorn. What is the pink unicorn doing? Sipping a latte and wearing a puffy vest. I love it. I love it. Pretty hilarious artwork. Okay. Don't forget the flannel as well. The flannel under the vest is great. All right, so I love this time of year, not just for the changing of the leaves, but it's apple season. So now I'm gonna make you guys drink some cider. Two Town Cider House, excellent cider maker out west in Oregon. This is called Hollow Jack, and this is their pumpkin cider, which they did a riff on it this year. They changed up the ingredients and the approach, and guess what? They're influenced by the popularity of pumpkin spice lattes. In this version, they added natural process Ethiopian coffee. Another one. They didn't say the roast on that, Ethiopian coffee. Yeah, I don't think they said that. It's natural process though, so those are usually the more fermenty, fruity profiles. Yeah. It's from Holderness Coffee Roasters. Just smell it. I'm giving this the hairy eyeball until I get it in my glass. Hollow Jack. Yeah, I mean, I would expect fruity, whiny coffee flavors out of them. Or rum. I'm getting funky rum like pot still. That's exactly the flavors I'm afraid of. Yeah, I know. It's not like off the charts though. You really don't like the crazy, crazy like, it's not like agri-coal. It's more like pot still. Yeah, high ester. If I was just smelling this blind, I would not guess apple cider. No, it's not what jumps out. But it definitely tastes like just, I love this. As I've said before, I think the most misunderstood thing with cider is the level of sweetness. If people say they don't like super sweet or they don't like super dry, it's all about getting that balance. People like sweetness and acidity. Yeah. It's like the lemonade factor. You love lemonade because it's both super tart and sweet. Yeah. I completely agree, Roger. That was my first thought was, this does not come off as sweet, but there is residual sugar in here. It retains what I would call the natural balance of apple juice. It's got natural sweetness flavor and then bright crisp acidity, and that's delicious. When you ferment that sugar out, a lot of times it gets so dry that it doesn't taste much like apple anymore, but they've hit this pretty well. I wonder if too, maybe it's just because we tried the pumpkin spice and then the cider, but the coffee characteristic isn't aggressive. No, it's like really subtle and nice and I like that a lot. Really low level. You guys taste carrot cake? Hmm, you see? I wonder what that's from. Well, carrot cake would share some of those spices. Yeah. Number one. I think there's probably some, yeah. Yeah. I think the vegetal character of carrots is maybe a little bit there with the natural process coffee. I don't hate it. Also, the carbonation is lighter and it makes it faster to drink, easier to drink. Also, instead of the headless horsemen, they're doing an homage to Captain Jack Sparrow. Sorry for pirates. Of course, I like this. All right. Available at Binny's near you. It's limited release, so not everywhere. Make sure you check first. $14.99, four-pack, 16-ounce can. This is also 6.9% ABV. Dang. Not bad. Johnny Depp was in Sleepy Hollow Tim Burton, but he was Ichabod Crane. Chris Walken ably played the Mad Hessian. Yeah, the Hessian. I love that one. All right, another cider. I'm excited for you to try this one, Lexi. I think it had to influence you, but I think you might really like this. I think you're already over your cider quota. No, keep it rolling. This is two of two, so calm down. Okay. Schilling makes excellent cider, fresh pressed apples from the Pacific Northwest. They also sometimes source heirloom stuff that is not easy to get a hold of thanks to prohibition, ruining half of the apple orchards in our country. This features some of those fresh pressed apples, some heirloom apples, pear juice and maple syrup. That's what it smells like. It smells like maple candy. This is another breakfast beverage. This to me is- Holy crap. Carameled apple. Sunday fun day all over it. Wow. The maple syrup really pops on the finish, and it is caramel apple-y. Yeah, for sure. Hear me out. If you go to some Apple Orchards this time of year, there's cider donuts is a big tradition. Sometimes people make them with maple glaze on top. That is what this tastes like to me, is like a cider donut with maple glaze. Why do we do this before lunch? Yeah. I have apple cider donuts on my desk. We should maybe chill another one or two and try them together. This is amazing. Again, I think the balance here is really good. There's enough sugar to make that carry the apple flavor, but it's not sweet. Sweet, sneaky, acidity on the end. Right. The acidity on the end cleans it up, but then you get that broadness of the maple syrup just fans out on the palate at the end. Yeah. Good. This is like autumn in a can. The sun going down a little earlier and you're wearing a sweater, and the sunlight and the orange leaves and the dappling. It's so American, it's disgusting. So dappling. It's delicious. I made blueberry pancakes for breakfast yesterday, and this is giving me a flashback because I used some really good maple syrup. So we're big fans of Schilling Cider. I think they do a great job. This was only going to be available out west in a really limited market right around the cidery. Binny's is excited to be able to offer this here in the Midwest. So again, limited release. Stop by your local Binny's, get it before it's gone. Schilling Maple Moment. It's in six packs. It's $12.99. Right now, we have it on sale for $10.99. What? Crazy good deal. 5.7. So if you were a little concerned about the higher ABV of all of our previous offerings, this is a more normal ABV. That's a dessert cider rocking in at a crushable 5.7%. Has anyone ever been to Funks Grove, Illinois? I've heard of it. You're just making this up. No. But it's like the maple syrup capital of Central Illinois. I've had syrup from there. Yeah, that's why. You should consider getting some to do a collab with an Illinois brewery that's down that way. That's a good idea. Somebody was... All this is ringing bells. Plus, I mean, what a cool name, Funks Grove. Yeah. Exactly. So many beer names writing themselves. But wait, there's more? Speaking of maple. From one maple to another, we're back on beer. Mention pumpkin beer, and there's a good chance people, if they've never had one or they've only had one, they're thinking about Southern Tier. Pumpking, we've had displays at stores that are hilariously big, that's how beloved this beer is. It's a big one, it's 8.6%. It has also spurred a bunch of offshoots. So, first there was, they've done like a coffee pumpkin, and then they took the same kind of recipe, but added darker malts, and called that Warlock. So, they're like pumpkin stout is Warlock, and then this year we have a new variant of Warlock called Maple Warlock. Okay, that's kind of silly. This is silly right off the bat. Maple Warlock. I don't know if I, the last time I had Warlock, I've had pumpkin the last couple years. This is what they look like in Canada. So, don't be afraid, like this is called an Imperial Stout, but I would say that this is pumpkin with some darker malts. The malt bill is two row Caramel 60, Munich, debittered black and chocolate. So, the debittered black is probably used in a very small amount, and that's what's making it so dark. Then the chocolate is going to add some of that chocolatey-ness to it, but this is not your traditional Imperial stout malt bill. It's stout for sure, but it's stout for fans of Pumpkin. It smells like German chocolate cake. It does kind of. It smells so good. Yeah. I mean, the spice blend of Pumpkin is here. I mean, it smells pretty much exactly like Pumpkin, but with some chocolate. It's not goofy and overwhelming. It still retains balance. The maple is way more subtle than I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be like crazy over the top, but it's very muted in the background. Is this the new direction of adjuncts or people dialing back and really searching for balance instead of flavor blasting things? Let's not make generalizations. I'm not. I'm making a generalization about what we've tasted today. I see that there's a different pattern here where things are just really folded in nicely. Or to say what Chris is saying in a different way. Roger, thank you for not bringing the clown show. I was just going to say. Yes, two things can also be true. Yes, this is heavily curated and yeah, we try stuff that is ludicrously flavor blasted. If you're into that, fine. It's worth saying that I often joke about how as someone who jokes about things being too over the top or too adjunct heavy, it's been crazy to see people shamed into not liking pumpkin beer. If you like drinking pumpkin beer, enjoy pumpkin beer. Don't let people say, oh, they're too basic or they're whatever. Drink whatever you want. Yes. This again, I think fans of Pumpkin are going to enjoy it. I've never really been huge on Pumpkin, but I think that the level of maple hair is nice. It's not crazy. Yeah, it's cute. Yeah, it's not crazy. There's bitterness on the finish, but strangely, I feel like it's more malt-related, even though you say that's debittered. It's 44 IBU. Is it? Really? Yeah. It's surprising. I didn't think it would be that high. I wouldn't call it hoppy, but it's there for balance for sure. I seem to detect a toasty bitterness, though, too, malt-related and maybe a hint of licorice. That's probably from the de-bitter, but even though it's called de-bitter, yeah. All right. Same price point as all the Southern Tier Pumpkings and Warlocks, 15.99, four-pack, 12-ounce bottles, glass, need a bottle opener, 15.99. How old school? All right, last, we have another craft veteran. This is from Ohma Gang out in New York. This is called All Hallows Treat. They came out with this a few years back. It's been pretty popular. It is, they bill it as an Imperial Chocolate Peanut Butter Stout. Well, they got the color scheme right. Dang, yeah. Sometimes you pour out of a can and it just goes. Who's your first time pouring out of a can? I know, sometimes it just splashes. This is pretty wacky for a brewery that I look to for traditional Belgian-ish styles. Buttoned up styles. I'd say that they started experimenting with when sours became popular, like kettle sours and people started putting a lot of fruit in them and stuff. That got Omegang thinking a little outside of the box and I'm sure they're salespeople and everyone was saying, you make all these traditional Belgian styles, that's not what people are drinking. Yeah, dude, if you were like, hey, what brewer you think made this peanut butter cup here? They wouldn't even be on the list now. Well, I will say they described this as dark chocolate in peanut butter, which is definitely not what you think of necessarily is like milk usually. Sophisticated peanut butter cup. Yeah, this is the more between their approach to things, maybe that's the Omegang element is that we're not going to change. The malt bill that I read is two-row flaked oats and chocolate malt. So there's not necessarily any like crazy dark malts in it, but. It definitely tastes dark chocolatey. It definitely tastes dark chocolatey and peanutty. I think somebody screwed up. This is my working theory. They're like, man, it tastes like dark chocolate. They were like, well, I'm calling it dark chocolate. Well, I think it's a chocolate malt. I mean, again, it's a malt that's roasted to the level of looking like chocolate. So it's definitely still roasted to the point where it's probably going to remind you more of dark chocolate than milk. So I would guess they use quite a bit in this to get that nice chocolate flavor. Little bit of vanilla would make this taste like candy. Yeah. I mean, they deserve props for this, in my opinion, as being really well-fermented and there's no lactose in it and it's not super sweet. Yeah. So when you read this, don't think like, oh, this is going to be a sugar bomb and it's not a pastry stout. Yeah. Definitely not. Yeah. I would be very, very forewarning about that because it is nothing like that. It's dry. There's a nutty peanut butter quality on the finish way back after everything else. Yeah. Can art's pretty awesome. I love the little graveyard. It's really cool. Yeah. Wait, what do those say on them? Grains instead of brains. Grains. So creamy. I don't know about this. Here for the booze. Okay. That's why I go to the graveyard. Little live, laugh, love. Yeah. 7.6. So a little heft, not over the top. Pretty nice deal for a beer this big. It's a 16 ounce can, four pack, 14.99. Well, here's to George Washington Carver, the guy who figured out how to use a peanuts in a million different things. Here's to George Washington Carver. There you go. Yeah. Happy birthday. I don't know if he ever made a beer though. So, a couple tried and true favorites there, a couple things we haven't seen in a few years. I love these fan favorite re-brews, always been a big proponent of that. Instead of trying to create new magic, why not listen to your fans and give them something that they really enjoy and miss? You know, like that Cigar City, the Avery, grab those. But some really fun new stuff too, that Schilling was great. Lots of good options though. Even if you don't think something's gonna be for you, like you might see this thing that looks like a pastry stout, or an apple cider that you think, I don't like cider, they're too sweet. There's some great exceptions out there. Everything here is light on its feet and balanced. Yeah. And that's kind of a feat when you're talking about the candy aisle gets remixed with Tales from the Crypt. Absolutely. I'm gonna be honest with you. Most of this stuff I would have ignored on the shelf, the ones that I haven't tried before, and I was very surprised. Yeah. I think, speaking to what you said, you could enjoy more than one of all these. Like, you could have a second glass, and beer hasn't necessarily been that way for a while. These are marketed exactly to me, and I would have tried them all. But did any of them surprise you with how restrained they were and how dry they were relative to what you might have expected? I was definitely expecting more of those. At least one sugar bomb, one really big crazy sugar bomb. We didn't get it. It's not really what we got, yeah. Love it. Happy fall beers, everybody. Yeah. And that brings us to the Q&A portion of Barrel to Bottle The Binnys Podcast, where we answer your questions for a $20 Binny's gift card. Reach out with questions at commentsatbinnys.com, or hit us up at Binny's Bev on social media, of your choice. We're on almost all of them. Our question this week, I didn't even know, what are people just listening to old shows? Our question this week comes from- Maybe they consulted a social medium and saw into the past. Okay, our question this week comes from Jeff in Northbrook. Jeff writes, Dear B2B, what's the deal with Tenets? My wife and I have been trying to get it here ever since having it and loving it on a trip to Scotland last year, but I haven't been able to find any stores or importers who can get it for me, including Binny's. Any ideas? Thanks. Good news. I love being the bearer of good news. Jeff, did you set this up? Oh, he set it up. No, but we did just get this e-mail and it is extremely timely. Tenets is back and it is not contract brewed. We're legit getting Tenets from Scotland. Wow. I just tried a can and it is a solid, crisp lager. It is the Tenets of many decades ago. Can we have it? We don't have any in stock yet, so it's still coming. It should be within the next month or so. So keep an eye out on your shelves at Binny's. We will carry it. Classic, traditional, crisp lager. People, again, love it because they're on vacation. They probably had an awesome time in Scotland. So we have a lot of other. And this is from a person who is a big supporter of Scottish culture. The last time I had a Tenets was at the Highland Games. So, but yeah, it's just a nice, traditional, crisp lager. Not necessarily anything super unique about it, but it is very well made and I'm happy to report. They went through a phase where they were kind of like letting someone else make it, and it wasn't anything special. So that's unfortunately what happens with a lot of these UK brews, like Harp for a while was that way, and now our Harp is back brewed in Ireland and it's much better. And this is in Cairns and it'll be fresh. Woo-hoo. Good news, Jeff. Write your questions to us, comments, binnys.com or at Binny's Bevel on your social medium. What? I'm thinking about his medium now. The crystal ball. Social medium. I used to say I'm like Twitter and Instagram and Pinterest. Wait, that's a really good costume. What? I'm a social medium. That's a wrinkle in time joke, I think. Yeah. Put your phone underneath the globe so you can show Instagram through it. You could have little gravestones of all the failed, old. Oh, yeah. Yeah. MySpace. MySpace. Google Circles. It was so good. Google Circles. It was the design for human beings. It ran circles around the other apps. Musically, do you remember that one? Musically? Musically was before TikTok, but it was basically the same. Womp, womp before it's time. And Vine. And Vine. And Vine. Yeah, I remember that. All right. Well, whatever. Barrel to Bottle The Binnys Podcast. Fall beers. Thank you, Roger. You're welcome. Thanks for joining me with this. This is great. Until next time. Back in the feed next time. Until next time. I'm Greg. I'm Chris. I'm Lexi. And I'm Roger. Keep tasting.

 

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