Barrel the Bottle, Binny's Podcast. Greg, thanks for listening. Once again, just like last year, Jim wants to go on vacation, so he surreptitiously put together a clip show of clips since the last clip show. And I listened to it in advance, and I think he's trying to tell us, trying to remind us how hard we make his job in editing, because most of this is unedited, and boy, is it rough. So enjoy this, and we'll be back in your feed next week with something new. Barrel to Bottle, The Binny's Podcast. Hey, welcome back to Barrel to Bottle, The Binny's Podcast. I'm Pat from the Spirits Department here at Binny's. I'm Pat, I buy the smooch at Binny's. I'm Pat, I'm an insufferable know-it-all at Binny's. I'm Pat, I do spirit stuff here at Binny's. Hey, I'm Pat, I love Czech beer. Pat's here too. Yeah, hey, I'm back. Hey, I'm Pat, I'm the only person who liked Caramella last year. Hey, I'm Pat from the Whiskey Hotline. I am Pat, I clean the cold water wine chillers at Binny's Beverage Depot. Hey, it's Pat, I do liquor stuff. Hey, I'm Pat, I'm an insufferable know-it-all at Binny's. Hey, I'm Pat, I do spirits at Binny's. I'm also the founder and president of the Roger Adamson Thick King Fan Society. I'm Pat, I tell people I'm out of stock on bourbon at Binny's. Hey, I'm Pat, I do spirit stuff at Binny's. I also use the phrase, you know, roughly 180 times per podcast episode. I'm Pat, I do the spirit stuff at Binny's. Hey, I'm Pat, I drink vermouth at Binny's. I'm Pat, I'm the director of spirit sales here at Binny's. Hey, I'm Pat, I do spirits things. Hey, I'm Pat, I'm the spirits guy. I'm Pat, from the spirits department. And I reluctantly have to talk about old man beer this week. Thanks, Roger. Hey, I'm Pat, we're talking about wine today, and these guys rely heavily on me on these wine episodes. Hey, I'm Pat, I'm a noted barley wine enthusiast. I need to get some of these little squirters from my house. They're like 10 bucks for a bag of 20. Nice. Yeah, of course. It's also, I use them for all my oils. Like on your canola and your olive oils and anything you cook with. Bath oils. Essential oils. Lavender oil that you put on your foot to keep you from snoring. Thanks, Monica DeWolf. Why do I know that? That's a very good question. I think it's peppermint. We have a big argument. It doesn't matter. I think it is peppermint supposed to put on your feet. Yeah. You never did that? It keeps you from snoring and that's how you get into witchcraft. Never had a frozen pizza before, never put peppermint oil on her feet before. But you mean cooking oils? Yes, yes. Because the bottles that come in are too pedestrian? They're big. That's true. They... They glug, glug everywhere. Yeah, the aperture is too large and it just kind of, yeah, comes out too fast and they're ugly to kind of keep on your counter. Aperture is fancy for opening. Yeah. Whereas if you... For porthole. La-dee-da, Ms. Frenchwoman. You might not get this, but when she said aperture, my brain just immediately goes, we do what we must because we can. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Portal Suite. So it's a heartbreaking song with jokes in it. It's one of the best video game moments ever. It's one of the best moments ever. But that line, aperture science, we do what we must because we can. Okay. So who's going to start us off? Thanks for listening to Nerd to Nerd, The Nerd Podcast. The Nerd Podcast. Does the fan work? I love meta-fuel. No. It's going to be nice and hot in here with recycled air. Toasty. Oh, you know what you should add to the list? A new coffee machine, a better coffee machine. A better coffee machine? What the f*** do you think this is? Italy? Italy? Yeah, it's coffee. It's more like a Waffle House one. It's an office coffee machine. Yeah, it's an office coffee machine. Yeah. You know what? I'm going to get out my AeroPress again. Yeah. Or we can get, just like a Chemex. Oh, what? We can just do a Chemex like- What is that? A Chemex? That's a stupid hipster s*** pour over. Pour over. Yeah, because everyone's got an extra 20 minutes to make a pot of coffee. So the AeroPress is that only for somebody in a hurry? Well, and AeroPress is single serve. No, French press. French press is sludgy. You call it sludgy. AeroPress? Yeah, it is sludgy. Yeah, it gets sludgy. There's parts that you need to French press. AeroPress, single serve. So, no, Greg, every time you want a cup, you obviously have to do another AeroPress. Whereas the Chemex pour over, you can get like an eight cup one. So we can just do one pot and then only- And it's enough for three mugs of coffee and then somebody else has to spend the next 20 minutes waiting for the water and dripping it over and dripping it over like we don't have better s*** to do with our payroll. Yeah, and I think you can get the- Why is it called Chemex? That sounds like the villain in an 80s movie. Yeah, that's the brand. Dumping nuclear sludge. That's the evil empire in RoboCop. It sounds like the brand of something you use to wipe insects off your windshield. Yeah. Just blast them with Chemex and you'll see right through. Exactly. Thank you, old timey voice guy. Hot cracker, do we have a fix for you? On your new age automobile, Chemex. Test it on animals first so you know it's safe. Thank you, bunnies. Oh, look at him, taking it in the eye. Okay. I'm going to go. Okay. I'll take care of the kids. Thanks, Jim. Somebody will hit stop at the end of this, I'm sure. All right. All right. See you. See you, Jim. Bye, Jim. Again, you age very well. I think I find champagne. Yeah, he's obviously older than me. Perfectly timed Jim laugh right there. I think I have a same size yard and I use a real mower. Real, R-E-E-O. Yeah, that's the way to go. That's the way to go. No gasoline in the environment, just my fat ass. You use one of the old-timey. Yeah, the little ch-ch-ch. You have to push it? Yeah, like the kind you've seen on old Bugs Bunny cartoon that they can't put on TNVV anymore because it's racist. With no bag. Yeah, it just reels like the razor blades over. You really still have one of those? I have one in my yard for decoration under a tree. Which proves it's an antique. I have one that broke down and I had to get another one. You can buy them at Ace Hardware. My dad was using one. My parents' last place in Washington state, my dad had one because he had the little tiny postage stamp yard. Sure. My yard is tiny and I don't want to chip the concrete or the brick on the flower beds or all the other quaint bulls**t. Save money, get some exercise. Exactly. Postage stamp yard. I can listen to music without having it blaring in my ears. That's very true. I can mow my yard at four in the morning and no one would really complain, which you've never done. He has totally been trashed and mowed his yard at four in the morning. Okay, maybe 1:30 a.m. It's time to go to bed, but I forgot to lock on. Got one of those headlights on my head like a spelunker. That's the quality Jim really likes in Superdog over Gene and Jude's. The roundness of the mouthfeel. They are plump dogs. Oh, he knows it. Actually, earlier he said, that's not a dog, that's a Superdog, like it's a distinct food stuff. I started saying there, they won't let you call them hot dogs. I started trashing their use of French fries on top of the dog and he was having none of it. He defended his local joint. A Superdog does that too? That's very common, having your fries wrapped with your dog. The only thing I don't like about the Superdog packaging is they really mash it in there, and then it's hard to even extract the hot dog without spilling your fries all over the place. Yeah, you got to eat all the fries first just to get the hot dog out of the box. But that proprietary hot dog is so juicy and meaty and garlicky, it's really good. It is a good hot dog. You could use a table. It's a hot dog. It's food on the go. You have to eat it in your car, and it's either dumping your fries in your lap or not. I mean, that's like an old trucker move, but it's a drive-in. 99% of the time I've eaten Superdog, I've been eating it in my car at the drive-in. Yeah. So Chris, if anyone here has had it, I bet it's Chris or maybe Jim. He's quite a foodie, especially Americana. Have you had Permantys, a sandwich from Permanty Brothers? Oh yeah. Sure. In fact, I have a friend who's ill, and he's from Pittsburgh, and I sent him some Permanty Brothers sandwiches, which you can get, but it's hard. I mean, it's weird. He said they were good. I've never had them this way, but they mail you a kit when you got to heat the French fries up and whatnot. Sounds like stickers. And I don't know how that could ever be as good as real life. No, it can never be as good. For those who don't know, it's a sandwich with French fries on it. Yeah. Hence why I brought it up. It's this big sloppy sandwich, and the idea was that truckers would want just a meal and one sandwich, and then just a bunch of Pittsburgh drunks would just go there. I am a big fan of trucker food. Yeah, I know. And Pittsburgh drunks. Some of my favorite people are Pittsburgh drunks. Ransack, the same roadside convenience store on a road trip. Yeah. Okay, okay. Jim, have you had Fermante brothers? He can't hear you. Have you had Fermante brothers? I was just curious. No, he says no. So, you know. You can guide him through that experience. There's a PBS documentary called Sandwiches You Will Like. Oh my God, how have I not watched this? It's a pretty great documentary. I own it all, Lady Barrel. I actually wanted to support some on beta. How many of them have you had or not had? So yeah, that's what I was getting at. I'm trying to think how many I've worked through here. That was on there. I've been to Dolma Lisa's in New Orleans, so I've had the Poor Boy. I've been to the French Dip in LA. I forget the name of the place now. Yep. Brown Derby? I was going to guess Brown Derby. No, it's. I know what you're talking about. Cremos or something, maybe? I forget. It's supposedly who invented it. And then I've been to where else? I've been to obviously. Greg is so bored with this. He's tying knots in his headphones. Al's Italian Beef. Jim, keep the mango talk, but lose the sandwich card. How do you make it great? It's this documentary. It's this guy in a room, and he's like, I don't know, like peanut butter and bananas with a slice of American cheese. Dude, we're ripping. You might like it. This is priceless. We're ripping through this thing. This is our last ride, so it's providing some color. Which ones haven't you had, Roger? All right. Stop it, Chris. We'll talk about this later. There's a lot that I haven't. It reminds me of a Permanti Brothers sandwich. What do you think, Roger? I pulled up the list. I got a lot of work to do. Philips was the name of the roast beef place. Oh, yeah, for the French dip. Is there any way we're within driving? Because I mean, we can take Barrel to Bottle on the road for a Midwest sandwich tour. They're all spicy chicken sandwiches. Questions on growing mint. Yes. Because I live in the country, so I occasionally get wild animal problems. I had to be a raccoon trapper for a couple of weeks earlier this summer. That was weird. Hey, man, it was effective is what it was. So mint keeps pests away. Mint grows in the shade. Anywhere. Mint is very resilient. So if I take a fully shaded area along the side of my garage, and I just throw some mint in there, and it'll come back year after year, even if I put, even if I mulch on top of it in the spring. Because most dads, I'm a big fan of mulching. That's okay. It grew on the east side of my house, which is very close to the next house over, through rock. So I don't know about mulch, but it will. Nothing stops mint. Yeah. People should be planting mint everywhere. Except rhubarb, apparently. Anywhere you have like mud. So if you have anywhere that has like a lot of drainage, and you're like, I'm always sopping through the mud, plant a bunch of mint there. Rather be sopping through the mint. Yeah, exactly. And you brought up a good point. It does. It keeps pests away, so it serves dual purpose. Keep the pests away and make refreshing cocktails. Yeah, there was a big toad in my garage this morning. Dry it, make delicious peppermint tea. I had to pick up and throw it out of my garage. Poppy was really worried I heard it when I threw it. But I threw it, I only threw it just a short distance into the flower bed. It was fine. I checked on it afterwards. Toad tossing. Yeah. We call that baked orchard fruit at the Whiskey Hut. Yeah. Exactly. But in particular, pear. Yeah. You're talking to Harry and David over here. Don't just lump all orchard foods together. At least you've admitted that you and Chris are Harry and David. And he runs his little country mixology store too. Totally. Just open a brick and mortar Harry and David already, and we'll let you remote record from there. What's a Harry and David? Harry and David is that crappy 80s store in the mall that sends fruit baskets and stuff around the holidays and like potpourri nosing kits. Okay. Dude, if you've never had a Harry and David pair, you don't know what you're talking about. They seem silly, but it's like serious fruit. Oh, it's serious fruit. It's not like you're incoming. It's not like the Swiss colony of baskets. That's where they send you like shelf-stable sausage, right? Yeah. It's not crap like that. It's like each pair is individually wrapped in a little very soft blanket protection. He's not only speaking with- Gold foil wrapped and nestled in foam. I'm uncomfortable sitting next to Roger right now. He's gone from speaking reverently about this to speaking sensually about this. It was lovingly nuts. I think it was the hand gestures that were most disturbing though. The way he showed how the pair was wrapped lovingly wrapped. The way he cups the pair. All right. Exactly. So speaking of crazy fruits, I read this whole article- But I totally get it, Roger. I read this article about Pakistani mangoes the other day. Have you ever had a Pakistani mango, Roger? No. Yeah, they're supposed to be like the world's greatest mangoes. And they've only been like legally imported to the US since like 2002 or something. And they're super hard to get. But one of the two importers in the country that can actually like get them to people fresh enough is based out of Chicago. And so I was looking at order in some, but eight mangoes is like $70. Well, if you go in with a couple of other guys- So no, so I'm thinking I can, you know, that's not Roger Pricing for, you know, he loves quality, but we all know that he appreciates a deal. So I'm hoping I can convince them. They're ripe for like two weeks a year. And apparently there's this huge, like underground WhatsApp community of people that like smuggle them in through the Detroit airport. And- No, don't go to New Jersey. I'm not going to listen. I don't want to buy elicit fruit. We need to just lean into his FOMO. Yeah, see, that's what I was thinking. How many times do you get to have an undiscovered fruit? Exactly. I've discovered a fruit Roger hasn't tried and I've researched a means to obtain it. So I think we probably should do a Pakistani mango tasting sometime on the podcast. He's gonna expense them. I knew it. Yeah, for sure. They're like a quarter of the size of the mangoes we get from Mexico, but they're like, supposedly it's just a transcendental mango experience. Wait, they're not only expensive, but they're also tiny? Yes, and there's like four different varieties. Oh, it was a fascinating article. I will say that in the last couple of years, it's pretty amazing to see the shift in some of these previously unknown fruits, how readily available they are. Of course, jackfruit being the one that we joke about. Pat tried to segue back into the ride, but Roger and Chris- They just want to talk about speed balling nutmeg and mangoes. I wanted to mention the other day, we were talking about rambutan. They're at Costco now. How common it is. I haven't tried one yet. I had you try one once, I think. Oh, yeah, I think you did. Didn't you? I guess it was a forgettable fruit. It's the hairy one or the lumpy one? The hairy one. The hairy. Oh, the hairy. I don't want to eat hairy little testicles. It's not forgettable at all. It's like a better leachy. Yeah, it's like a better leachy. I've never had a leachy. The most exotic fruit I may have tried was an Asian pear once and it was a flavorless disappointment. It pairs like that. Yeah. Like it's the most expensive fruit in the normal produce section, but it's also the filler material in canned fruit cocktail. Yeah. So. All right. Yeah. We don't need to go down this road. It's best quality is there's a shit pear and then there's transcendental pear. So. Yeah. The Asian pear's best quality is probably its crunchy texture. Yeah. Classic noob. Yeah. Truly, truly the celery of pears. Yeah. What are you knocking celery? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if you're going to mock pears, it's the pears that end up tasting sandy. There's definitely pears where you bite in on them, you're like, ugh. You're making a strong case for pears right now. It's like some s***y Basque pears can be real sandy. That's why they make them into the cider or whatever. Perry. Perry. Perry. That's not what they call it in Spain. So, right five. What do they call it in Spain? They say it through the fairies. It's quarry in France. See. He also wore a white shirt today. Yeah. No short tie, though, folks, so that's good. But... I was wearing a sweater. It didn't matter. This will be in it, sorry, Jim, but you missed one tie. You wore a button-down shirt, short sleeve. It was hot. I was wearing a sweater. A short tie because he had a cardigan on, so you wouldn't see it except for when he took the cardigan off when we were recording because it gets quite warm in here. Yeah. Then it looked like a gas station attendant. I know. You did. It was cute, Greg. Great. That's great. That's my look. That's why you got to always stick with bow ties. No one can ever mock you for the length of them. No one will ever make fun of you for that. You look terrific. I have my bow tie in my pocket. Yeah. I think this is an awesome way to show too, after you've had several of the beers that we just enjoyed and you just need to switch things up. This is so different because of just the bursts of the red fruit and the plums and the blue fruit that you get. Nice for your dinner after day drinking, which I hear is now called like darty or something. What? Darty's. Darty's? What? That sounds like a Victorian area nickname for underpants. No, I learned this from Doug Jeffers. Darty, it's a day party. Dardy? Woof. Anyway. Amongst what, Wimbledon fans? I always darty in my nicknames. Mimsy. Woopsie woopsies and darties. They may be in order. This is a little bit off topic, but I once went to a Gilded Age fashion show of undergarments. It was wonderful. You were in the show, Chris? I was. Wow, that would have been something. No, I was not. And it's not as risque as it sounds. It was at a Gilded Age mansion, and it was- And bloomers? They cover quite a bit. It doesn't reveal a lot like today's undergarments. Not that we're including this, but why did you go to that? Don't ask questions you want to know the answer to. Why do you ask? Why not? If that exists, that should be a title. I don't know, but I brought a ton of singles. All right. So what's the next line? It was literally a fundraiser for the restoration of a Gilded Age mansion, and that was just part of it. A handful of people traipsed around in old timey underwear. It was funny. Those are called darties. In their darties. In your darties. It is a more unique expression, I think, than we saw in the first two. That is the second time you have said more unique. Unique means one of a kind. You can't have something be more unique or less unique. That's a real pet peeve, by the way. I've known this for like 12 years, but it's so it's fun to see it come out on other people. I've corrected Michael Binstein. You're saying more unique. Oh, this is really unique. Is it? Okay, done. Pat, do you know about the VNNV hot dog classification system? What? No. The numbers. What? Chris, I bet you know. The hot dog sizes are numbered based on how big they are. The bigger the number, the smaller the hot dog. Is it gauges, like a 20 gauge and a 12 gauge? No, it's the number of hot dogs that are in a pound. Oh, yeah, like shrimp. Like shrimp. Oh, okay. Yeah. So number 10 is the really skinny one. And that's so that's that's the skinnier one. That's interesting. I remember we were at the RPM Italian steak for something. And it was Jeff's thing. And we got the Seafood Tower and the guy was like, I'm so sorry, we're out of U4 shrimp. We only have, it was like weird out of U3 shrimp. We only have U4, so we gave you an extra one. And yeah, he apologized about the shrimp, but they were the size of an infant's leg. Yeah, U4 is asinine. All right. Sorry, I was reading an email not listening to the Vienna beef classification system. Or to the shrimp. No, sorry. It's how many shrimps can fit in a pound, so it's how many dogs can fit in a pound. No s**t, I'm so stoked on this. So the number 10 is the skinniest one, and the number 9 is a little less than and so on. I think there's just 7th or 10th. OK. I think 10 is what they serve at Jane and Jude's. Probably. You know, like those really skinny, snappy ones. I don't understand this culture at all. I loved, I love encased meats. I don't eat them. So I haven't experienced all of it. Then you don't love them. Hey guys, I don't eat meat anymore, but I love encased meats and I understand it. You don't understand. No, I don't understand it. It's what I'm saying. I don't. I don't. This is one of the things that I missed out on. Lamb and encased meats. Lamb's overrated, in my opinion. I know. I heard the clip show. You're eating the wrong lamb then, buddy. Bro, I've had some good ass lamb. It's just, I don't know. It's never been a flavor I loved. Yeah. All right. One time me and Pontani were at a bar in Scotland, and drunkenly had a conversation with a guy who turned out to be a farmer. He's like, oh, I'm actually calling some lambs tomorrow morning. I'll bring you one. So we met this guy early in the morning, and we got a freshly slaughtered lamb that we then made. We were staying at Gordy's, our friend Gordy's. Hard time out right now. This is a Pontani story. Every person that I know in my life would be like, no thanks. Yeah, they'd be like, that's cool. We're good though. We're traveling. We don't need a dead lamb. Yeah, we don't need a dead lamb. Brett's like, we're there. Yeah. We're going to stop. We're only going to stop and get some dry ice. No, no, no. Because we were staying in Falkland for the next two days at Brett's friend Gordy's place. And so it's like, it's a little cottage, so it's got a little kitchen. And you're walking distance from this hybrid hippie commune slash organic market and farm. And so we walked over there and bought a bunch of veggies and stuff and then pan roasted this lamb. It was awesome. All right. So I want to point out also- Lamb still sucks. That if eating meat wasn't a regular thing, if some stranger was like, I'm going to kill an animal, you want one? You'd be like, what? That's the first step to becoming a serial killer. Is it mounted in a menacing pose that would look really cool in my basement? Is it just a carcass? Rolling, rolling, rolling. Rolling, rolling, rolling. Like biscuit? Keep those prices rolling. Flip Biscuit. Oh. A terrible band. Remember their song Rolling that went like triple platinum? It's ridiculously stupid. Why don't you sing some of it for us, Rod? That's not the one that's like, they see me rolling. No. That's Chameleon Air. Jeez. God. No, this is from- One is a Houston rap stalwart. The other is Fred Durst. A band that was so- Doesn't it go something like, Rolling, in my 5.0, I got my rag top down so my hair can flow. We're going to need you to not do that again. You don't have to ask. I'll never do that again. I went on a YouTube rabbit hole about that stupid band and Fred Durst after- Keep rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling. What? The Woodstock 99 documentary. Oh, yeah. And- That's pretty tragic. They showed one of their tours once. They- Everyone always said what a shitty band they were. So, they made a gigantic toilet as a stage prop, and climbed out of the toilet at the beginning. And it's like, are you really owning that or- If this podcast was a rock group. I think Alicia is going to invent a new stuffing this year, since she just tried an Italian beef for the first time yesterday. Just chop those up, put a little broth on there. We do get to see- I'd be down for that. It's the happiest. Alicia has been in months. I convinced her to try a Chicago style Italian beef sandwich yesterday. She went to Johnny's out in Elmwood Park, the best Italian beef in the city. Go ahead and add us if you think otherwise, but you're wrong. I don't think they're the best. You will. I mean, you have a long track record of having poor opinions. I'm a contrarian, I will fully admit that. My biggest beef with Johnny's, see what I did there, is their sweet peppers. They're like diced up and you don't get the sweet peppers. You get the hot peppers like an adult, and then there's not a problem. Let's all be honest, that Roger probably gets cheese on his beef too. I don't. You probably get it dry. Come on, Johnny's is great. It's the best combo around. Oh, the combo is the star of the show. I didn't tell her about the combo because I knew she'd just be grossed out by the thought of it probably, but it is really the thing to order at Johnny's. Yeah, I left the sausage out. I bet Jim would agree with us. A charcoal grill brazier right in front of your face with swords full of sausage. So there's a trombone in my house that I know how to play. And I think I should come in and lay down some sad trombone tracks for us for all kinds of use on the podcast. You've never told us that you played trombone before. I also played trombone. Oh, sweet. I have multiple trombones. We could do dual sad trombones. I remember in third grade, you go to the auditorium and they demo all the instruments for you, and you get to pick which one you want to play. And I was just so fascinated by the slide. And so fourth grade, I took up the trombone. Yeah, my sixth grader is switching from clarinet to trombone. That's why the trombones are back in my house, because they were in my parents' house forever. I only learned how to play trombone, because when I moved to Washington State, that broke ass school district didn't have a tuba. So I had to learn a new instrument. So I learned trombone in sixth grade, and I played it in sixth, seventh, and eighth. So when I went to high school, I went back to tuba, but I kept trombone for jazz band. I just did jazz band. Did you incorporate the plunger? Oh, of course. Yeah. Nice. I mean, it depends on the song, of course. How did this not come up during the Bone podcast? Oh, yes. The Bone. So- Roger's favorite cocktail. Wait, can I- Welcome to the new podcast- Before we get started. Between two trombonists. Chris, did you ever go to Whitefence Farm down in Joliet when they still raised the chickens in the back and slaughtered them in the back of the restaurant? I mean, I've been there a bunch of times since I was a kid. I don't really recall. Then for sure, then back when you were a kid, they were still doing that. I think they were- In the 20s, you mean? Yeah, in the aughts, I thought. They were doing that, I think, until the 90s. Used to take the carriage out there on old 66, drive my horses like an evil master. You had to carry an extra spoke or what was the other spare parts in Oregon Trail that you could buy before you set off on your journey? Extra wheels, spokes. You need an extra canvas for your wagon top. Yeah, for sure. An extra yoke for your oxen. Yes. Gone are the days when the ox fall down. Do we have a cart in there? I should probably get some water. You guys are smart and have water. I need to pee and get some more water. You didn't pee yet? Are you serious? Dude, I've had to talk to everybody since I came in. He had to talk to everybody. All the peoples. Hey, so new Greg, what's going on? We should get him on an episode soon. He wants to do Jim. Well, that was like his idea. He wants to talk about local gins. What do you mean? Why are we going to let him talk about gin if he doesn't care about gin? Everything is a passion. You don't care about gin? Oh, he's gone. And the door is closed. You think he can't hear me through that door? You'd be shocked when you can hear Pat through. Oh, I know. His voice literally bounces off my neighbor's windows when he's on my porch. It's impressively majestic. But yeah, that's probably going to get the police called on me. Like every time Jim goes to edit one of these, it's hard for him to tell which mic Pat was in front of because he just shows up on all the mics. Yeah, yes. His voice captures them all. Dude, check out Home Pore Rafado here. Yeah, good lord. There's 12 of these, Jim. Spit them out. Are you talking to me? I like fat pores, man. Okay. All right, you guys. We, I'm really full of Tom Yum soup. I just want you guys to know that. Tom Yum? Tom Yum soup. It's the same soup that Pantani spills in the back of his jeep once a year. Oh, gross. He makes a big thing of Tom Yum soup. Yeah, it's like- And he takes the Clark Street Ale House, and he just puts a Tupperware in the back of his jeep, and then drives like it's Mario Kart. Yeah. And then is shocked that there's soup all over the back of his jeep once a year. That's not something you leave out at room temperature for any amount of time. No, not at all. It's like chili, coconut milk, and shrimp juice. Yeah. There's definitely fish juice in it. Yeah. You should smell that car when this happens. So my question is, why do they give you such a big bowl? Why does it come in such a big bowl? Because it's yummy. Chris and I enjoy talking about old-timey donut shops, especially in the St. Louis area. So we're usually in tune. We've been talking about old-timey donuts for a decade now, Roger. Is St. Louis known for old donuts or something? Yeah. Is it old guy donuts? St. Louis is a donut market that has never really been penetrated by Dunkin Donuts or anybody, and there are dozens of super old school independently owned donut shops. And dozens of people patronizing them. Hey, don't ask questions you don't want to hear the answer to, buddy. Hashtag donut local. It's a big guys are going on a donut getaway some weekend to St. Louis. You take the donut tour. It's the gateway to the West. Well, unfortunately, one of the best has changed hands and is no more, so I missed out on it. The one that Chris talks about the most. Get your St. Paul sandwich. That's right. The St. Paul. I got to know now where we got another sandwich that's foreign to me. Tell me about this sandwich. What did you say? Oh, it's so gross. The sandwich of the week with Barrel to Bottle. It's a egg foo young patty. What? With mayonnaise on white bread. That's a noodle sandwich. What? It's like a fried patty of egg foo young and onion. Lettuce and tomato and mayo? And white bread. Yeah. What the f***? St. Louis. Somebody got some leftovers. It's the only place on the planet where you can get it, is St. Louis. That is a- And nobody knows why it's called a St. Paul. That is what a drunk 19-year-old made in a dorm room. Because that's what was in the tiny fridge. At three in the morning. In Styrofoam. That's not a thing. Well, let's hear it from the person who's actually eating it. Chris? Yes. I have eaten it. There's actually a good version that's at a Chinese restaurant right next to the great custard shop, Ted Drew's on old Route 66. All right. We have to end this. And I just want to get my dumb joke out so we can go back to it. Were you talking about a donut shop that closed that you'll never get to experience? Yeah. So would you say that there's a donut hole in your St. Louis experience? Something that needs to be filled with pastry cream, Bavarian. God, I hate you guys. Seriously, how does it devolve into this every f**king time? Because liquor tasting is all about what you eat. You're right. And it all comes back to what we sense memory and what we've eaten in the past. Your experience. That's true. That's true. He's right. Bourbon 11 tastes like a St. Paul sandwich to me. And all 12 tastes like Tom Yum to Greg. Okay. I really like this one. You even know it doesn't taste like what I thought it was going to taste like. Is that just mostly because of your love of local Chicago pizza joints? A free one liter of RC with a large does purchase. Yeah, it does look like the RC Cola. Huge shout out to the RC Cola colors that they embraced in this. Have it with a pizza and a bag with a map of Italy on it. The best pizza is coming bags with maps of Italy. Square cut, Greg, just like Greg likes it. F**k you. Covered in weird briny green olives. Yeah, he does like green olives, but he doesn't like it square cut. Square cut infuriates me to no end. I get so frustrated. God. But why? Because it's a pizza. Because you got banana hands and you can't pick up a little piece of pizza. Yes. Roger seen me eat Cheetos with a fork. I'm not like manhandling a tiny little square of molten cheese. What is that? Do you not like that you end up, you feel like you're eating more? That's part of it too. Yeah, it's like a unit. Well, that's because I eat 27 little squares of pizza. I know. As a family man, your kids are still pretty young, but it's great with the square cut, because then you give the kids the middle and then you get all the crust. Yeah. That's the winner. Yeah. Screw your kids. That's the lesson. My son loves the crust. It's his favorite pie. I've seen him only eat the crust off a slice of pizza. Really? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. That's crazy. My kids like- Well, are you forcing them to eat your weird olive pizza? That's what happens when you grow up with vegetarians. His favorite pizza is black olive. He's going to- It's not even green olive. We can't even agree on the color at all. That's going to be an awkward showing to sitting around with the other kids. What kind of pizza do you like? Black olive. I'm going to get my Kalamata. Those are good on pizza. Oh, yeah, for sure. Kalamata is both of our first choice if it's an option. Yeah. Where is that an option? This place right down here, La Rosa. Wow. Let me get out my funnel and tube so I can make a vermouth bong. Let me tell you about one of my best homeowner purchases. It's called Formafunnel, and it's essentially this thing that you can form into any shape funnel you need. So it's really handy for funneling vermouth into your gullet. I know- And also changing the oil on your- I can contest, I've been at his home before where I'm like, Pat, you've worked in this industry for how long? Will you please get us glasses? He's literally just drinking things out of the bottle. And when I'm looking at him, he's like, all right, so he doesn't lip them. But he's just drinking it out of the bottle. He's looking at you like, I'm not lippin it this time. Yeah, exactly. No, that's when we're like in my storage room, like looking at all these bottles. Like there's a bar in my basement. Now Roger hasn't come over in a long time. And there's a lot of glasses down there. I mean, I've got nothing but Glen Cairn glasses everywhere in the damn house. It smells like assy. It does kind of smell like demerara rum. Did everyone see? Did I? Wait, sorry. Roger's about to flip the table. You can talk about demerara rum. I was talking and not stirring. Just drinking in what Shakespeare over here. This might just be a glass of Luxardo and sweet vermouth. I don't know if I put the gin in there. Why don't you hit me with some gin? I sure stirred that Luxardo for a while. You sure stirred that Luxardo? I sure did. Take your time. This is not going to have the desired effect. You know we're live right now, right? There's no going back. We're going to cut this. Just add a splash of gin. Don't worry about it. Give me two splashes of gin. All right, we're just going to pass the gin bottle and you can do your own damn splashes. The best laid plans, Greg. Splish splash, I was drinking some gin. Don't worry about it. You got Prophy over here, only drinks cocktails that are made for him. You got Greg who stirs drinks with pencils. That is a joke. That's apocryphal. I think Pat did it first. That's a really good joke though. I use my finger or I don't stir them, and I just enjoy the layers of flavor. Did I get a gin in mine? No, you're putting your own damn gin in yours. Yes, here. Here's the gin. Did you get your gin? No. Who the f**k was making these cocktails? Does it smell less assy now? I'll be the judge of that ass. It's a little bit less oregano-y. A little more. Pat, is there oregano in Dolan? Tea quality. I always taste oregano. See? That's what I'm talking about. Every time. It's really. Basil, oregano, these like Italian spice. It is the hot dog-iest. North Italy. The hot dog-iest vermouth. Every time I try to like it, I pulled it. What hot dogs are you eating? That's Korean. That have, what was the first one I said? Oregano. Oregano. What hot dog has oregano in it? Italian hot dogs. That's an Italian sausage. That's a sausage. On your Johnny's combo. It's nice. Yeah, it's nice now that there's gin in it. Okay. All right. So that was a lot of bulls**t. All I needed was the key component of this podcast. All right. Hard reset. See what a difference gin makes. Make Jim's life easy. We're going to be quiet for one second and then dive back in again. I definitely didn't pull price on this gin. Should I pull that up? I've got it. I don't have complete tech sheets. Look who comes prepared for an episode. Pat, if you've got like- I'm here for my wits. This is what preparation looks like. See what he's doing right now. It's like he remembers that he has to come here, so he wanders into the cave and grabs bottles, and then comes here. Guys, I just don't want to f*** this up. Not how you guys do it? No, but like if you have more legit tech sheets, I pulled a bunch of f***ers to find it on the internet. Shut the f*** up and talk about these gins. It doesn't matter. I f***ing love gin. Okay, all right. Lean on them. Lean on them. The day you see Brophy walking in with tech sheets, you heard him play the Illinois Lottery. Oh yeah, hold on, let me give my three-year-old binder of tech sheets. As opposed to my insisting I know what I'm talking about at all times. All right. That reminds me of another joke I didn't get a chance to make in here. We're taking a dive on Chicago's clear spirits, the city known for the off yellow pale bitter one. Yeah, that's fine. I know, I know. Cut that, Jim. Yeah, Jim. We're at time. Hour 16, cut that. I'm so happy. We have half a clip show in this room right now. Okay. Wait, I didn't follow that joke. It was Malort. He was talking about Malort. The off pale bitter one. I know, it was labored. Yellow. You should have said bro. I thought the punchline was brophy. Oh, pale bitter. He didn't say it. That's full pale bitter. Wow. I can't tell which was more labored, the first joke or the second. Thank you. That was great. All right, Jesus. We said the word gruner too much. Gruner. Gruner. Gruner. Gruner. Gruner Veltliner. Gruner. Gruner Veltliner. Gruner Veltliner. Gruner. Gruner. Gruner Beltliner. Gruner. Gruner? It's Gruner. Gruner is Gruner. The only thing this episode is missing is our favorite large tree-bearing fruit. Or fruit-bearing tree. I don't know. How would you say that? Largest tree fruit. I still don't know it. I'm just kidding. I bought some jackfruit. What? Yeah, I bought some jackfruit and ate it with my kid. Where? At the produce place over on Oakton. Was your kid as thoroughly unimpressed as I imagine he was? Yeah. Yeah. Did you tell him it was the flavor that they modeled juicy fruit gum after? He hasn't had juicy fruit gum. Well, now when he does, he'll be like, this tastes like jackfruit. Just sitting there, picturing your little boy chewing on jackfruit and just being like, what the f**k, dad? Yeah. Like, do you want some more? And he was like, no. No. Can I have a banana? No, it looks terrifying. Did you describe to him the monoculture that bananas have become and why he needs to diversify his fruit portfolio, like Roger here? The Cavendish banana will be awesome. Yeah, we can't rely on the Cavendish anymore. Oh, man. They both said Cavendish. They are the same guy from different timelines. Chris, Roger, I've never seen both of you in the room together at the same time. I think you might be just the same guy. This is it. We're living the boring alternate version of the new Spider-Man movie. Yeah. Yeah, just schlubby guys who enjoy fruit and booze. Schlubby guys who enjoy fruit and booze. Well, you got to have something in your life. Drunken schlubby guys. That's right, folks. The cocktails are kicking in just in time. Alicia is going to have to sit through a champagne episode after this. I feel bad for her, but at least it will be a fun wine episode. She already told me that she refused to taste the aged eggnog, and I was like, well, you're lost. Well, yeah, it's not pasteurized. Well, she's pregnant. Come on. It's sterilized. Everybody's obsessed with those Nashville hot chicken sandwiches. This would go, I feel like that. Well, yes, we'll get into it, but some of those are terrible. If they're done right, they're good. They can taste like they were dunked in sand. That's a whole different conversation. You really want to fight when we're done. You guys, Roger and Pat, they're going to fight right now. Have you guys ever been to- Did Greg tell you about when I took Greg to Nashville on a work trip, and I made him witness me eat back-to-back hot chicken sandwiches from two different restaurants? He wanted to compare. I love that. I'm all about that. The places had lines too. It was absurd. Hattie B's and Prince's and Hattie B's is considerably better. Hattie B's, goat of Nashville hot chicken currently. It's a little rough for doing that. You said you went to Prince's. Sit there. No, I wouldn't get lines. He had plenty to drink. I went upstairs and got tacos, which were boring because they didn't have meat. That's true. No, they might have had fish. Did they have fish? I did get fish. Oh, that did fine. Hattie B's and Prince's. And Prince's, yeah. Hattie B's way better, in my opinion. But it was like the downtown Prince's. I'm sure it's probably like Herald's here where you got to go to the right Herald's. So while Roger's doing this, I was drinking some old school gin and juices, right? Just OJ and gin because I was having a weekend. And it was not very late at night, but it was dark enough in the kitchen. My kids were watching Frozen 2, right? And yeah, Frozen 2, Frozen Boogaloo. And I poured myself a pretty healthy pour of gin, and I reached into the fridge and pulled out the pitcher. I poured the pitcher in and it was dark. And I looked at it and I went, that's not orange juice. It turns out that we had a leaky gallon of milk. So my wife put milk in a pitcher, and it was right next to the orange juice pitcher. How did the gin and milk taste? You tried it, right? Instant milk punch. I was having a weekend and I looked down at this ginny glass of milk and I went, nah, and I just jumped there. I didn't try it. I did not try gin and milk. I can't, I couldn't. I just, it was just bulls**t, dude. It was the end of that. So I had to switch from leather be to sapphire. What a tragedy. Oh man. That's why you shouldn't drink and drink. If that had been gravy, I would have gone for it. Right, Chris. Chris is over there like, you could have made a perfectly good, I don't know. Sock it. I got nothing. There are zero English drinks with gin and milk in them? Sure. It was one of these pours too. Where you're like, there's a shot left in the... Oh, man. What a bummer. What a bummer. Like I wouldn't say it like... No Italian ice in Iowa, apparently. But did you have to cross the border into Nebraska to get your Runza? That's all I want to know. No. No, there was a now defunct Runza in Iowa as well. Right next to the Maid Right? Yeah. No, the Maid Right is... . is honestly about 200 miles away, but that's very Illinois-centric of you to assume that Iowa City and Council Bluffs are adjacent. There's no big map. That's Iowa geography slam for you folks. I am very hip to Iowa geography. Okay. Yeah, I thought it was a chain. If you've never heard of Maid Right, that's the whitest of the sloppy joe's without spices. Right. Just remove all the sauce and all the seasoning, you've got a Maid Right. Even in my meat days, Maid Right was not on the menu. It's really not good. All right. Can we have him put a yamaday in the office so we can see Jim? That's literally just sweatpants. The last time that happened, the only thing keeping us from was a very thin tiger's onesie. He went to the bathroom and took off all of his clothes, including his underwear, and then put the onesie on. Hillary had these onesies from a bachelorette party, and she brought them in for Halloween. We all just stood there and put them on over our clothes. It's a great picture. You got to find this picture. But he's a tall guy, and it was like stretched out. Yeah. Sorry for hijacking. Obviously, we got to keep that pair. Yeah. You go ahead and keep that. And where's our Jack Daniels picks for crying out loud? Those came and went a long time ago. Jim's been waiting. He's been asking for them every two weeks. He's been asking for them. Well, he's very upset. He's off-camera, but he's going like this. What about the old Forrester picks? What about the old faux picks? Oh, those came and went a long time ago too. Jim is very disappointed. These are the picks Jim helped with over in July? Bro, we sold out of those in October. Honestly, we were wondering what the hell was taking so long. See folks, Jim can't even lay hands on the bottles, so quit complaining. We never even talked about them. No, we can't talk about them. Doing an old Forrester barrel yields 25 cases, and it can't even go on the shelf because people fight over it and try to hoard it all. We can't market that. So basically, hey Jim, did you think you're going to get a bottle? Too bad. Yeah, I'm sorry, Jim. I'll give you the sample bottle in the office. I am delighted that I got to try 1920-21 Manhattans. I bet you are. We tried 23 different versions of this cocktail. They were all different. They were all interesting. I like them. 23 different bitters, 22 different Manhattans because we did a- no, because we did a- 23 different Manhattans. Wow. You guys are struggling here. Guys, I have to pee so bad. It's 20 bitters. After 20 Manhattans. Well, I like Manhattans. If you like this podcast as much as I like Manhattans, leave us a review on iTunes podcasts or a bunch of stars on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Tell your friends, tell your neighbors, tell your Binny's wine consultant, tell your mom. Re-record 21 different Manhattans. Oh my God, I'm going to kill you guys. Yeah, that's gone. Just say, I'm Jenna. I'm Jenna. See ya. Look at that terrifying spit bucket. Yeah, it's murky. It's 21 different Manhattans. 23. No, it's 21. How many jars are there? Just f***ing count your list. One of the things here is the combo. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen printed. One of them had two, so that's 20. I stand corrected 22 Manhattans. I did two rounds and one didn't make it through both times. It's 22 Manhattans. What is that? This is an un-bittered Manhattan. Oh, I want the bittermans. Give me the... I want to try it. All right. Well, let's do the damn outro and shut this up. All right. All right. 20 Manhattans and then you guys each did one. Yeah, it's 2022. And there's number 23 right there. Because one of them had two bitters. It's 21. Have fun editing this, Jim. Yeah. 21 different bitters. 20 different Manhattans, 22 different bitters. 22 different Manhattans. Because it was 23, 23 jars and there's one leftover. It was 22 Manhattans. Yeah. Just f***ing listen, it goes like this. Keep counting silently in your head, please. You could not be more wrong about how many f***ing Manhattans you just taste. Pat, I made 23 jars. I don't care about the jars. You made a list and we tasted through and I wrote a ranking on every single one. And how many bitters were there? Or how many Manhattans on the sheet? 19. Plus 2 is 21. Yeah. We added black walnut, so there's 20 total. I put black walnut on. Oh, I didn't add Roger's last combo, it's 22. Which was Jamaican and Regan was very good. And then you had Bitter Mins. Oh, I got a question for you, Pat. Bitter Cube. Did you think any of these bitters would enhance the flavor of that crow that you're eating right now? A question I asked somebody the other day. I mean, I could save it for department meetings, but everybody else in the department is kind of lame, so. Is there like a moment in your life where like you definitively thought like, oh, I'm getting old? Yeah. What was it? Definitively? Yeah. The time I freaked out and cut all the hair off my head. No, that was a nervous breakdown. That wasn't necessarily a signifier of age. I'm literally 10 years into, what's the thing? A midlife crisis? Well, midlife, but pre-midlife, where it's just your own sense of existence, existential. Thank you. Yeah. Mine, see, my answer is much simpler. I was getting my hair cut and then the barber just started trimming my eyebrows and ears. Ears. And I was just like, well, ****, I'm done for. It was a guy or a girl? It was a guy. I had a Latin teacher in high school whose eyebrows were so out of control, they were growing over his eyes like that sheepdog in Looney Tunes. Gross. Roger, when did you start to feel old? When I was a TA, we were- I thought you were going to say teenager. I mean, I felt old, yeah, always. You bought a young lad at 11 mixing tiki drinks for the party. I mean, my music tastes are never current stuff. So yeah, I basically always felt old. I mean, Sea Shanties have been out for a few hundred years now, Roger. They came back for a few months during the pandemic. Yeah, that's true. On TikTok. We're not on TikTok, so we couldn't participate. I was a TA for a early Latin American history course, and I thought it would be cool for the- you normally stare out at these kids and they're all, nobody gives a **** and they don't want to be there. So I'm like, I got a great idea. This will engage them. So I brought in a boombox and I printed out the lyrics to People of the Sun by Rage Against the Machine. Yeah, Rage, right. So I'm talking about how, look, this band is singing about the people that we're learning about, and they couldn't have given less of a ****. Everyone's like, who the **** is this? Rage Against the Machine, that's a band. Then there was one guy in the course who was in his 40s, and he was headbanging. He loved it, and everyone else is like, whatever, grandpa. I'm imagining a room full of dead-eyed teens, and Rod just banging his head, and you know, yeah, I mean, that was in like, I don't know, now that was like 10 years ago, but it's not like rage was that old when I did that, and they were just like, who Jenny, you don't get to answer this question. I'm just so young. Your eyebrows don't get trimmed yet. I have a bathroom that the ventilation is so poor that I basically don't see myself after taking a shower every day. So it's like, I do my best to ignore the whole situation, just everything. When I have to shave in the morning, I'll like wipe off a corner and lean down just one corner of the mirror. Because otherwise, I don't know if I'd be able to make it to work. All right. Good times. Yeah, on that positive note. On that positive note. Hey, you're listening to an... Now, f***, can somebody else do it? I got it in me. Wait, let Jenna do it. Jenna? No. OK. Can I do that? Hi, and welcome back. You're listening to another episode of the Binny's Barrel to Bottle Podcast. I'm Jenna, and I work for the Communications Department. So close. Roger doesn't know the name of the podcast either. You got to get it tattooed somewhere. No, I normally get that right. I just always say join together with me. Join with me. Yeah, join with me. My conjoined hosts. Okay. One more time? Yeah. All right. Barrel to Bottle. The Binny's Podcast. We're going to make a montage of all the times people have ended. Yeah. There's a colon in there. Just think about that. That's your mnemonic device, the colon. So I was forced to watch either a hallmark or a lifetime movie the other day. I was passively watching it while reading something, but it was about and seemingly sponsored by the Court of Master Sommeliers. It was completely amazing and ridiculous. This young woman is trying to become a master sommelier, and she's already on the cusp of taking the test, but nobody thinks she has a good palate in the real world, and they mock her mercilessly, and then she wins in the end and marries a beautiful Argentine man. Oh my God. It was wonderful. Did Binny's make this movie? If it's a happy ending, it's Hallmark. Spoiler alerts, please. How are we not renting out a movie theater for the Binny's holiday party and- And watching this movie. All this talk about W sets and the Sommetest, the different grapes, that's really, that is very inside baseball for Hallmark. Yeah. Or Netflix or whoever. Oh, what are, what are Jenna's thoughts on the just shoots? It was decent. Again, I liked it better than the old Rasputin. A little more mild, but I'm not a big, I guess I just don't like dark heavy beer. I just don't like that chocolate in beer. I don't, I don't want to drink chocolate. Cardboard pad is going to unfriend you. He has his own social media, right? The quality is there, it's not to my taste. I'll put it there, there we go. That's so polite. Yeah. Oh, I'm supposed to say that's how I feel about Rush. Except Rush sucks. Screw you, Rush is great. And I'm the only one here who will defend it. Exactly. Basically, Rush is great. Geddy Lee's voice, not great. Yeah. That high head voice, that contratenor that Geddy Lee uses is interesting. But you cannot be- It's literally in the key of testicular accident. It's literally the key of singing of Roger. If Roger podcast was a singing voice, that's what it is. Come on. Roger's voice is beautiful. Have you heard him sing? I'm not even kidding. Only sea shanties. When the COVID times are over, oh my God, I will karaoke all night long, baby. I'm going to hold him to this. You haven't heard Roger sing until you hear him bust out Billy Idol. Absolute fave. Our Billy Eilish. He's also excellent at that. We're going to pivot back into...